EP0222383A2 - Procédé d'enregistrement des à-coups de pompage à des turbocompresseurs - Google Patents
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F04—POSITIVE - DISPLACEMENT MACHINES FOR LIQUIDS; PUMPS FOR LIQUIDS OR ELASTIC FLUIDS
- F04D—NON-POSITIVE-DISPLACEMENT PUMPS
- F04D27/00—Control, e.g. regulation, of pumps, pumping installations or pumping systems specially adapted for elastic fluids
- F04D27/02—Surge control
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F04—POSITIVE - DISPLACEMENT MACHINES FOR LIQUIDS; PUMPS FOR LIQUIDS OR ELASTIC FLUIDS
- F04D—NON-POSITIVE-DISPLACEMENT PUMPS
- F04D27/00—Control, e.g. regulation, of pumps, pumping installations or pumping systems specially adapted for elastic fluids
- F04D27/001—Testing thereof; Determination or simulation of flow characteristics; Stall or surge detection, e.g. condition monitoring
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- the invention relates to a method for detecting pump surges on turbo compressors of the type specified in the preamble of claim 1.
- a method for detecting pump surges on turbo compressors of the type specified in the preamble of claim 1.
- the monitored operating variable being the inlet temperature, is known from GB-PS 1 588 945.
- Pumping is a process in a turbocompressor in which the pumped medium flows back intermittently or periodically from the pressure side to the suction side. This process occurs in operating states with too high a pressure ratio between outlet and inlet pressure or with a too low throughput volume. Since that Pumped medium heated by the compression in the compressor, the pumping medium flowing back in the event of a pump surge is hotter than the pumped pumped medium, so that a pump surge results in a change in the temperature conditions at the compressor inlet; at the same time, the flow, the pressure ratio, the final pressure and the output show a sudden drop.
- the temperature or other change can be used as an indicator of the presence of a pump surge in order to trigger measures for eliminating the pumping, for example opening a relief valve.
- the pump cycle of a compressor is relatively short at 0.5 to 2 seconds. With conventional temperature sensors, it is difficult to detect these brief temperature changes. In addition, the daily and seasonal fluctuations in the temperature of the intake air in air compressors or the process-related intake temperature fluctuations in gas compressors interfere. Cooling water temperature and quantity have an influence on intercooled compressors. All of these disturbances can lead to pump impulses not being detected quickly enough or not reliably enough when the operating conditions change, and therefore the countermeasures are not triggered or are triggered too late.
- GB-PS 1 588 945 it is therefore proposed not to detect the temperature change itself, but rather its rate of change and to generate a trigger signal if it exceeds a predetermined value.
- another compressor operating size e.g. the paddlewheel position are monitored in order to generate the trigger signal only if a trigger condition is fulfilled for both measured variables. For this it is necessary to make structural changes to the compressor and / or housing in order to position additional sensors in the compressor and to lead the measuring lines to the outside.
- the object of the invention is to provide a reliable and free of interference method for detecting pump surges, for the application of which no additional structural changes need to be made to the compressor and / or housing.
- a temperature sensor 3 is arranged in the intake duct 1 of a turbo compressor immediately before the first impeller 2 and another temperature sensor 4 at a somewhat greater distance from the first impeller 2.
- the backflow through the impellers acts hotter pumped medium mainly on the temperature sensor 3, while the temperature sensor 4, which is further away from the impeller 2, is essentially only exposed to the intake flow and does not experience any change in temperature.
- the temperature sensor 3 can respond quickly and the temperature sensor 4 can be thermally inert.
- the temperature difference ⁇ T is formed in a difference-forming element 5 from the temperatures detected by the temperature sensors 3 and 4.
- the differential element 5 is unnecessary if the temperature sensors 3, 4 are thermocouples which are connected to one another, so that the measurement signal corresponds to the temperature difference.
- This temperature difference is differentiated in a differentiation stage 7 in order to form the time derivative d ⁇ T / dt.
- a comparator 8 the values of the temperature difference and their time derivative are compared with predetermined limit values ⁇ T max and d max , and a signal indicating a surge is generated in the output line 9 when the two limit values are exceeded.
- the measured variable x is delayed one input (+) of a subtraction stage 10b, the other Ren input (-) supplied via a delay element 10a.
- a delay element of the first order is provided as the delay element 10a, in which, in the event of a sudden change in the input signal, the output signal increases in the form of an exponential function with a time delay to the input value.
- the time constant T 1 of this increase is adjustable and essentially determines the behavior of the arrangement 10.
- the signal generated by the subtraction stage 10b is dependent both on the rate of change and on the absolute amount of the change in the input signal x. Rapid signal changes compared to the time constant T 1 or the running time T L have a relatively strong effect on the output signal, slow changes only little. In the steady state, ie with a constant input signal, the output signal is zero. In addition, the output signal is also dependent on the magnitude of the input signal x, since, in the event of rapid changes, it can at most assume the value of the input signal x. Because of this, noise signals have an effect low amplitude also only slightly on the output signal, in contrast to a pure differentiation, in which only the increase in the signal edges is taken into account.
- a limit value stage 10c is provided after the subtraction stage 10b in order to determine whether the output signal exceeds a predetermined value and, if appropriate, to generate a trigger signal. Small changes have no influence on the output of the limit value stage as long as the amount of the changes lies below the switching threshold of the limit value stage. This makes the change 10 insensitive to measurement noise.
- the adaptation of the arrangement 10 for detecting pump surges is done by setting the time constant T 1 and the limit value of the limit value step.
- the method can also be carried out when other measured variables are recorded, for example throughput, compressor end pressure, compressor suction pressure, output, speed, etc., which show a rapid change in the event of a pump surge.
- other measured variables for example throughput, compressor end pressure, compressor suction pressure, output, speed, etc.
- the rise in temperature the drop in outlet pressure, throughput, power and the axial position of the compressor shaft, which is also characteristic of a surge, can be detected and the signal processing are supplied, the consideration according to the invention of both the amount of change and the rate of change also being used in these cases.
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Applications Claiming Priority (2)
| Application Number | Priority Date | Filing Date | Title |
|---|---|---|---|
| DE3540088 | 1985-11-12 | ||
| DE19853540088 DE3540088A1 (de) | 1985-11-12 | 1985-11-12 | Verfahren zur erfassung von pumpstoessen an turbokompressoren |
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| Publication Number | Publication Date |
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| EP0222383A2 true EP0222383A2 (fr) | 1987-05-20 |
| EP0222383A3 EP0222383A3 (en) | 1988-01-13 |
| EP0222383B1 EP0222383B1 (fr) | 1990-10-24 |
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| Application Number | Title | Priority Date | Filing Date |
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| EP86115703A Expired - Lifetime EP0222383B1 (fr) | 1985-11-12 | 1986-11-12 | Procédé d'enregistrement des à-coups de pompage à des turbocompresseurs |
Country Status (4)
| Country | Link |
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| US (1) | US4749331A (fr) |
| EP (1) | EP0222383B1 (fr) |
| JP (1) | JPS62113889A (fr) |
| DE (2) | DE3540088A1 (fr) |
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| DE3810717A1 (de) * | 1988-03-30 | 1989-10-19 | Gutehoffnungshuette Man | Verfahren zur vermeidung des pumpens eines turboverdichters mittels abblaseregelung |
| US4879895A (en) * | 1988-08-29 | 1989-11-14 | Mcdonnell Douglas Corporation | Normal shock locator |
| US4949276A (en) * | 1988-10-26 | 1990-08-14 | Compressor Controls Corp. | Method and apparatus for preventing surge in a dynamic compressor |
| US5095714A (en) * | 1989-12-25 | 1992-03-17 | Daikin Industries, Ltd. | Surging prediction device for a centrifugal compressor |
| US5195875A (en) * | 1991-12-05 | 1993-03-23 | Dresser-Rand Company | Antisurge control system for compressors |
| US5306116A (en) * | 1992-04-10 | 1994-04-26 | Ingersoll-Rand Company | Surge control and recovery for a centrifugal compressor |
| CA2149576A1 (fr) | 1994-05-19 | 1995-11-20 | Hideomi Harada | Dispositif de detection de surtension et turbomachines connexes |
| CN100417818C (zh) * | 2004-12-06 | 2008-09-10 | 三菱重工业株式会社 | 涡轮冷冻机 |
| US7293954B2 (en) * | 2004-12-30 | 2007-11-13 | Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. | Centrifugal compressor for turbo chiller, turbo chiller, and control method therefor |
| JP4775097B2 (ja) * | 2006-04-25 | 2011-09-21 | トヨタ自動車株式会社 | 遠心式圧縮機を備える内燃機関の制御装置 |
| US20080034753A1 (en) * | 2006-08-15 | 2008-02-14 | Anthony Holmes Furman | Turbocharger Systems and Methods for Operating the Same |
| US7841825B2 (en) * | 2006-10-26 | 2010-11-30 | Industrial Technology Research Institute | Method for predicting surge in compressor |
| DE102009047195B4 (de) | 2009-11-26 | 2016-06-16 | Man Diesel & Turbo Se | Pumpstoßerfassungsvorrichtung, damit ausgerüsteter Turbokompressor und Verfahren zum Erfassen von Pumpstößen in einem solchen Turbokompressor |
| US9169809B2 (en) | 2012-08-20 | 2015-10-27 | Ford Global Technologies, Llc | Method for controlling a variable charge air cooler |
| JP6038092B2 (ja) | 2014-10-14 | 2016-12-07 | 三菱重工業株式会社 | サージ判定装置、サージ判定方法およびプログラム |
| JP6431244B2 (ja) * | 2016-03-08 | 2018-11-28 | 三菱重工エンジン&ターボチャージャ株式会社 | 排気タービン過給機のサージ回避制御方法、サージ回避制御装置 |
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- 1985-11-12 DE DE19853540088 patent/DE3540088A1/de not_active Withdrawn
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- 1986-11-07 US US06/928,467 patent/US4749331A/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 1986-11-11 JP JP61266827A patent/JPS62113889A/ja active Pending
- 1986-11-12 DE DE8686115703T patent/DE3675154D1/de not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 1986-11-12 EP EP86115703A patent/EP0222383B1/fr not_active Expired - Lifetime
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| Publication number | Publication date |
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| EP0222383B1 (fr) | 1990-10-24 |
| EP0222383A3 (en) | 1988-01-13 |
| US4749331A (en) | 1988-06-07 |
| DE3540088A1 (de) | 1987-05-14 |
| JPS62113889A (ja) | 1987-05-25 |
| DE3675154D1 (de) | 1990-11-29 |
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