EP1538580A1 - Gefahrenmeldeanlage - Google Patents
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- G08B19/00—Alarms responsive to two or more different undesired or abnormal conditions, e.g. burglary and fire, abnormal temperature and abnormal rate of flow
- G08B19/005—Alarms responsive to two or more different undesired or abnormal conditions, e.g. burglary and fire, abnormal temperature and abnormal rate of flow combined burglary and fire alarm systems
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- G08B25/00—Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems
- G08B25/01—Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium
- G08B25/04—Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium using a single signalling line, e.g. in a closed loop
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- the present invention relates to a hazard alarm system with an alarm center, a Detector loop and with hazard detectors connected to this detector loop.
- Such alarm systems can in particular fire alarm systems with a fire alarm panel and a fire detector connected to a bus forming the detector loop or burglar alarm systems with a burglar alarm panel and connected to the bus Burglary detectors.
- fire alarm systems it was previously not permitted on the detector loop in addition to operate other devices, because it was feared that the function the fire alarm system could be affected by these other devices.
- fire detectors and climate controllers are connected to the same bus would be at the emergence of a fire the climatic regulators determine a temperature increase and in the Follow messages to reduce the heating or to switch on the cooling system to the climate control center send. In the worst case, so many such reports could be discontinued be that the bus is blocked and the fire alarms are no longer their alarms can send.
- the invention will now be given a hazard alarm system, which is so robust is that on the detector loop trouble-free simultaneous operation of hazard detectors and other devices is possible.
- a first preferred embodiment of the inventive hazard alarm system is characterized in that the detector loop either to one of the two centers can be switched through.
- a second preferred embodiment of the inventive hazard detection system is characterized in that the switching through the detector loop to one of the centers is done by a controlled by the alarm center switching means.
- a third preferred embodiment of the inventive hazard alarm system is characterized in that the switching of the detector loop to one of the centers in a predetermined time grid takes place.
- the detector loop is at least 50% the time switched to the fire alarm panel.
- a fourth preferred embodiment of the inventive alarm system is characterized in that the hazard alarms are provided with means that it allow parameters of signals on the detector loop to be kept at a value that outside the range of values observed during normal operation, additional equipment is required provided that check the said value, and that if there is a deviation This value of the expected value in normal operation, a message to the Alarm center, which enables it to connect to the Hazard detectors and possibly other safety-relevant detectors.
- a further preferred embodiment is characterized in that said Parameters of signals on the detector loop formed by the voltage or the current and that said additional means are part of the switching means for switching through the detector loop to one of the centers are.
- a further preferred embodiment is characterized in that the danger detection system through a fire alarm system with a fire alarm panel and to the detector loop connected fire detectors or by an intruder alarm system with a burglar alarm panel and intrusion detectors connected to the detector loop is formed.
- Fire alarm messages are preferably treated and suppressed with priority the switching of the detector loop on the at least one other center.
- the explanation of the invention with reference to a fire alarm system is not intended to be limiting be understood.
- the fire alarm system shown in the drawing rather represents in general, a hazard alarm system with an alarm control panel and hazard detectors; it So it can be a fire alarm system, a burglar alarm system or a gas detection system act.
- the illustrated fire alarm system comprises a fire alarm panel 1, a through a bus. 2 formed detector loop and a plurality of connected to the bus 2 fire detectors 3.
- These fire alarms 3 are shown uniformly in the figure. It may in reality, however to act detectors in different designs, but all serve to detect fires and therefore have to meet special safety requirements. Especially The term fire detectors also means manual call points. At lower The detectors can only meet the demands of transmission reliability via a simple Detector line are connected. Bus 2 is via switch 8 to the fire panel 1 connected.
- the bus 2 also burglar alarm 4, a climate controller 5 and a device 6 for the transmission of voice or music connected.
- the device 6 can be used in particular for the announcement of messages used for evacuation become.
- Other devices of the different types of fire detectors 3 could, for example Surveillance cameras or speakers for background music (for example, in Department stores and the like).
- an additional center 7 is provided, to which the bus 2 can be switched through switch 8.
- the additional center 7 can be quite similar to the fire panel 1.
- the switches 8, which can also be simulated in software, are through the fire panel 1 by means of a connection 9 actuated.
- the fire panel 1 switches the bus. 2 via the switches 8 during a certain part of the time, for example half the time, too through to operate the fire detector 3.
- the Bus 2 switched to the additional central 7.
- the communication between Fire alarm panel 1 and fire detectors 3 priority which means that upon receipt of a Alarms of one of the fire detector 3 of the bus 2 switched to the fire panel 1 and the fire alarm is treated.
- the device 6 can include.
- the security-related detectors in particular the fire detectors 3 but also other detectors who have to meet special requirements, the possibility given electrical parameters of the signals on the detector line (bus 2) to change that they can be recognized easily and quickly.
- a fire detector 3 load the detector line 2 so much that the Voltage falls below a value that corresponds to normal operation.
- the Fire alarm panel is then conveniently the connection between the detector loop 2 via the switch 8 to the additional center 7 interrupt by the switch. 8 be brought by means of the connection 9 in the idle state and the detector line 2 with the Fire alarm panel 1 is connected.
- the fire panel 1 can then with the for provided communication protocols record the connection with the fire detectors 3 and thus receive the alarm message.
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- Gefahrenmeldeanlage mit einer Alarmzentrale (1), einer Melderschleife (2) und mit Gefahrenmeldern (3), die an diese Melderschleife angeschlossen sind, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass an die Melderschleife (2) zusätzlich zu den Gefahrenmeldern (3) weitere Geräte (4-7) eines anderen Typs angeschlossen sind, denen eine zusätzliche Zentrale (7) zugeordnet ist, und dass die Kommunikation zwischen den Gefahrenmeldern (3) und der Alarmzentrale (1) und die Kommunikation zwischen den weiteren Geräten (4-7) und der zusätzlichen Zentrale (7) in verschiedenen Zeitfenstern erfolgt.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach Anspruch 1, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Melderschleife (2) wahlweise an eine der beiden Zentralen (1, 7) durchgeschaltet werden kann.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach Anspruch 2, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass das Durchschalten der Melderschleife (2) an eine der Zentralen (1, 7) durch ein von der Alarmzentrale (1) gesteuertes Schaltmittel erfolgt.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach Anspruch 3, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass das Durchschalten des Melderschleife (2) an eine der Zentralen (1, 7) in einem vorgegebenen Zeitraster erfolgt.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 2 bis 4, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Melderschleife (2) mindestens 50% der Zeit an die Alarmzentrale (1) durchgeschaltet ist.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 5, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Melderschleife (2) durch einen Bus gebildet ist.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 3 bis 6, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass das Schaltmittel (8) in Software nachgebildet ist.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 7, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die genannten weiteren Geräte eines anderen Typs ein Gerät oder mehrere Geräte in der Art von Einbruchmeldern (4), Klimareglern (5), Geräten zur Übertragung von Sprache oder Musik (6) und/oder Überwachungskameras umfassen.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 8, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Gefahrenmelder (3) mit der Alarmzentrale (1) und die übrigen Geräte (4, 5, 6) mit der mindestens einen anderen Zentrale (7) mit demselben Busprotokoll verkehren.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 8, dadurch gekennzeichnet dass die Gefahrenmelder (3) mit der Alarmzentrale (1) und die übrigen Geräte (4, 5, 6) mit der mindestens einen anderen Zentrale (7) mit einem verschiedenen Busprotokoll verkehren.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 3 bis 10, dadurch gekennzeichnet dass die Gefahrenmelder (3) mit Einrichtungen versehen sind, die es gestatten, Parameter von Signalen auf der Melderschleife (2) auf einem Wert zu halten, der ausserhalb des im normalen Betrieb eingehaltenen Wertebereichs liegt, dass zusätzliche Einrichtungen vorgesehen sind, die den genannten Wert prüfen, und dass bei einer Abweichung dieses Wertes von dem im normalen Betrieb zu erwartenden Wert eine Meldung an die Alarmzentrale (1) erfolgt, wodurch diese in die Lage versetzt wird, eine Verbindung zu den Gefahrenmeldern (3) und gegebenenfalls anderen sicherheitsrelevanten Meldern aufzubauen.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach Anspruch 11, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die genannten Parameter von Signalen auf der Melderschleife (2) durch die Spannung oder den Strom gebildet sind, und dass die genannten zusätzlichen Einrichtungen Teil der Schaltmittel (8) für das Durchschalten der Melderschleife (2) an eine der Zentralen (1, 7) sind.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 12, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Gefahrenmeldeanlage durch eine Brandmeldeanlage mit einer Brandmeldezentrale (1) und an die Melderschleife (2) angeschlossenen Brandmeldern (3) oder durch eine Einbruchmeldeanlage mit einer Einbruchmeldezentrale und an die Melderschleife (2) angeschlossenen Einbruchmeldern gebildet ist.
- Gefahrenmeldeanlage nach Anspruch 13, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass Meldungen von Brandmeldern (3) mit Priorität behandelt werden und das Durchschalten der Melderschleife (2) auf die mindestens eine andere Zentrale (7) unterdrücken.
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| EP03028034.1A EP1538580B9 (de) | 2003-12-06 | 2003-12-06 | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
| AT03028034T ATE424600T1 (de) | 2003-12-06 | 2003-12-06 | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
| DE50311248T DE50311248D1 (de) | 2003-12-06 | 2003-12-06 | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
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| EP03028034.1A EP1538580B9 (de) | 2003-12-06 | 2003-12-06 | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
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| EP1538580A1 true EP1538580A1 (de) | 2005-06-08 |
| EP1538580B1 EP1538580B1 (de) | 2009-03-04 |
| EP1538580B2 EP1538580B2 (de) | 2018-10-03 |
| EP1538580B9 EP1538580B9 (de) | 2019-05-15 |
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| WO2010021958A1 (en) * | 2008-08-20 | 2010-02-25 | Siemens Industry, Inc. | Arrangement and method for communicating audio and dc signals |
| EP2911128A1 (de) | 2014-02-24 | 2015-08-26 | Siemens Schweiz AG | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
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| EP0689145A1 (de) | 1994-06-23 | 1995-12-27 | TEKNOX S.r.l. | Verfahren zur Zugriffsverwaltung zu einem Bus von mehreren Systemen, zum Beispiel zur Verwendung im Hausnetzen-Bereich, und Schnittstelleneinrichtungen dafür |
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| EP0689145A1 (de) | 1994-06-23 | 1995-12-27 | TEKNOX S.r.l. | Verfahren zur Zugriffsverwaltung zu einem Bus von mehreren Systemen, zum Beispiel zur Verwendung im Hausnetzen-Bereich, und Schnittstelleneinrichtungen dafür |
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| WO2010021958A1 (en) * | 2008-08-20 | 2010-02-25 | Siemens Industry, Inc. | Arrangement and method for communicating audio and dc signals |
| US8280070B2 (en) | 2008-08-20 | 2012-10-02 | Siemens Industry, Inc. | Arrangement and method for communicating audio and DC signals |
| KR101299591B1 (ko) * | 2008-08-20 | 2013-08-23 | 지멘스 인더스트리 인코포레이티드 | 오디오 및 dc 신호들을 전달하기 위한 어레인지먼트 및 방법 |
| EP2911128A1 (de) | 2014-02-24 | 2015-08-26 | Siemens Schweiz AG | Gefahrenmeldeanlage |
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| EP1538580B2 (de) | 2018-10-03 |
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| EP1538580B9 (de) | 2019-05-15 |
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