EP2149665A2 - Agencement d'entraînements - Google Patents

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EP2149665A2
EP2149665A2 EP09166714A EP09166714A EP2149665A2 EP 2149665 A2 EP2149665 A2 EP 2149665A2 EP 09166714 A EP09166714 A EP 09166714A EP 09166714 A EP09166714 A EP 09166714A EP 2149665 A2 EP2149665 A2 EP 2149665A2
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Matthias Hucker
Eberhard Hahn
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    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05F—DEVICES FOR MOVING WINGS INTO OPEN OR CLOSED POSITION; CHECKS FOR WINGS; WING FITTINGS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, CONCERNED WITH THE FUNCTIONING OF THE WING
    • E05F15/00—Power-operated mechanisms for wings
    • E05F15/60—Power-operated mechanisms for wings using electrical actuators
    • E05F15/603—Power-operated mechanisms for wings using electrical actuators using rotary electromotors
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2201/00—Constructional elements; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2201/40—Motors; Magnets; Springs; Weights; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2201/43—Motors
    • E05Y2201/434—Electromotors; Details thereof
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2201/00—Constructional elements; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2201/60—Suspension or transmission members; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2201/606—Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2201/62—Synchronisation of suspension or transmission members
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2400/00—Electronic control; Electrical power; Power supply; Power or signal transmission; User interfaces
    • E05Y2400/10—Electronic control
    • E05Y2400/40—Control units therefor
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2400/00—Electronic control; Electrical power; Power supply; Power or signal transmission; User interfaces
    • E05Y2400/10—Electronic control
    • E05Y2400/40—Control units therefor
    • E05Y2400/41—Control units therefor for multiple motors
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2800/00—Details, accessories and auxiliary operations not otherwise provided for
    • E05Y2800/20—Combinations of elements
    • E05Y2800/242—Combinations of elements arranged in parallel relationship

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  • the invention relates to an arrangement of drives for driving windows, doors or the like according to the preamble of claim 1.
  • the EP 1 764 663 A1 describes a drive device for doors and windows that works with multiple drives.
  • a query signal is constantly passed in a closed loop from one drive to the next drive to query the respective speed of the individual drives and tune them to each other.
  • this procedure is time consuming and also prone to failure.
  • the invention has for its object to improve the generic arrangement to the effect that the synchronization of the drives with little effort is feasible.
  • the common line may be a signal line for transmitting an analog voltage signal.
  • the drives are thus connected to each other via the signal line.
  • the analog voltage signal corresponds to the instantaneously set speed of the drives, wherein the voltage signal is preferably proportional to the predetermined speed.
  • the voltage signal or the predetermined speed must be adapted to the currently slowest drive.
  • the voltage signal can be changed stepwise in the smallest possible steps or continuously.
  • the common line may be a data bus. In this way, data relating to the respective speed of the individual drives and with regard to the respectively achieved rotation angle can be transmitted serially between the drives.
  • data telegrams provided with priorities can be transmitted via the data bus, whereby the data telegram for the lowest speed has the highest priority.
  • the data bus line is a CAN bus line
  • all drives can send data telegrams at the same time, whereby the data telegram with the highest priority can nevertheless always be transmitted to the other drives.
  • the drives can be equipped with a control device to ensure the respective predetermined speed, regardless of the load acting on the drive.
  • the drives are operated about 5 to 10% below the maximum power, for example, 95%, so that there is a reserve to compensate for an increase in load for the control of the individual drive.
  • the invention relates to a window or a door, or which has an arrangement according to one of claims 1 to 10.
  • FIG. 1 shows an arrangement 10 with three drives 11, 12 and 13, which are connected to each other via a common line 14.
  • the line 14 may be a signal line over which analog voltage signals are transmitted.
  • the drives 11, 12 and 13 are operated for example with 95% of the maximum power. As soon as an additional load occurs on the drive 11, possibly as a result of a wind pressure or a stiff hinge, the drive 11 attempts to maintain the speed given to it by increasing the power by means of a control device not shown here. The supplied power can then be increased to the maximum power of the drive 11.
  • the drive 11 when the drive 11 reaches the power limit, it reduces its speed to a new value and predefines this lower speed over the signal line 14 to the other drives 12 and 13, so that then all the drives 11, 12 and 13 are synchronized with the predetermined lower one Speed work.
  • Each of the drives 11, 12 and 13 can thus according to its load, a lower or higher speed to the other drives 11, 12 and 13 pretend.
  • the signal line 14 is switched in such a way that always the lowest speed has the highest priority. So if the drives 11, 12 and 13 each specify different speeds and the drive 11 specifies the lowest speed, then the voltage of the drive 11 for the lowest speed is decisive on the signal line 14, so that all other drives 12 and 13 this lowest speed have to take over.
  • the signal line 14 is switched in such a way that, for example, in the case of a defective drive 13 or, if no supply voltage is applied to the drive 13, the voltage signal is likewise set to "zero".
  • the drives 12 and 13 can thus not start.

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  • Automobile Manufacture Line, Endless Track Vehicle, Trailer (AREA)
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EP1764663A1 (fr) 2005-09-19 2007-03-21 Nekos Srl Dispositif de commande pour actionner une barrière telle qu'une porte, une fenêtre ou similaire

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